Olaf Scholz is the SPD's candidate for chancellor.Image: dpa / Annette Riedl
"I trust us to have a result of over 20 percent": Scholz believes in the government under SPD leadership
16.08.2021, 10:21
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In the ARD summer interview with the head of the capital city studio, Tina Hassel, Olaf Scholz presented herself in campaign mode.He tries to avoid critical questions, he does not succeed, he tries to hold the current government partner CDU and CSU responsible-for example when it comes to CO2 neutrality.If you have any questions about possible coalition partners, he repeatedly explains what democracy means - namely that the citizens decide who should represent them at the ballot box.If it goes to Scholz, it is it.
"I trust us to have a result of over 20 percent," he explains.Such a result was sufficient in other countries, such as Denmark or Sweden for the government responsibility of the social democrats there.Would the SPD get involved in a traffic light coalition under green guidance?"I want the government mandate of the citizens," replies Scholz.How is a Germany coalition?"I can only repeat what has been said."
"You currently need the FDP for a chancellery.The respective tax concepts are miles away.How should that go together in a coalition? "Asks Hassel.Scholz answers:
"The citizens give us the order to form governments.For me it is clear: tax reductions for people who earn as much as me or even more are immoral."
He cannot understand the allegation of Union and FDP that the SPD would break the economy with its tax concept.Finally, loans were taken to protect the economy in corona pandemic."Companies and people who make such great profits to promise tax reliefs, you have to get on it first," summarizes Scholz.
He and the SPD, on the other hand, want to work for the economy in a different way: when the way to CO2 neutrality.Hassel refers to a study by the Agora-Energieenden think tank.It says that greenhouse gas emissions in Germany will increase by 47 million tons of CO2 compared to the previous year.That is the biggest climb since 1995.
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"What has to be done about it, possibly before the choice?" Asks Hassel.Scholz initially points out what has already been implemented: expansion of renewable energies, the decision to exit nuclear and coal current, to operate the objective by 2045 CO2-neutral.He takes the coalition partner CDU and CSU responsible, which would have denied how much electricity the turn would need.Hassel does not let the Chancellor's candidate get away so easily: "Would you have to prefer the coal phase -out with Chancellor Scholz?" She asks.Scholz answers:
"What has to take place now is that we adhere to agreements that we have closed with regions, employees and employers.But in the first year of the new legislative period, a higher expansion goal for electricity production in Germany and a faster expansion of the transmission power network in Germany.We also need laws that lead to us finished in time."
At the end of the answer, the SPD candidate does not miss the opportunity to point out that the choice of the CDU and CSU will cost "prosperity and jobs" in his view."If you become a chancellor, when would you get out of oil and gas?" Asks Hassel on.Scholz admits that he wants to use gas for a long time as a bridge technology."But in 2045 we want to operate C02-neutral and then that is over," he adds.In addition, he does not want to ban domestic flights - in his view, it is more important to expand the railway lines so that they represent an alternative offer."We have to tackle that first," he says.The same applies to the charging infrastructure that is used for electric cars.
Hassel had asked the Social Democrats at the beginning whether he was in the wrong party.After all, according to current surveys, Olaf Scholz is the most popular of the Chancellor candidates - but his party is not equally popular and is currently between 16 and 20 percent.He is not in the wrong party: "I want to do something for justice.I want to live in a society in which we meet at eye level."
This statement is the perfect transition for Hassel to come to the first question of citizens.In this section, people have the opportunity to ask the interviewees a personal question via video news.This Sunday afternoon comes the first question from Jeanette Pach.She is a driver for the German Bundestag and criticizes that she and her colleagues would not be paid according to the tariff."How can you support us Mr. Scholz?" She asks.
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"I think it's entitled to a collective agreement," says Scholz.And adds: "We generally need more collective agreements in Germany.When one speaks of respect, then one speaks of recognition."For this reason, he wanted to work for a hedge -making - the statutory minimum wage of 12 euros - and for more ordinary collective agreements.The state should also award its orders to companies that pay according to the tariff: "We have to use the amount of orders that we award as a state to enforce tariffs."
According to current surveys, Scholz is the most popular of the three chancellor candidates.Image: dpa / Annette Riedl
The second question of audience comes from Martina Wittkämper, she has 30.Invested 000 euros in Wirecard shares-and lost.She would like to know from Scholz why the Federal Financial Services (BaFin) had the eyes.And why he didn't resign.
In his answer, Scholz talks about the hot porridge: the scandal was taken as an opportunity to get a large reform in the sector - with stronger control options for the Bafin.Hassel captures him: "This is the Lesson Learned, but does not help the lady.Would you apologize? "Scholz begins to carry out that consequences have been drawn, that options for action were created."Can't apologize to a future chancellor?" Asks Hassel again.But the social democrat remains guilty: "I think that you have to draw consequences.And we did that and that is our responsibility in a democratic policy."
"We will do everything we can to get the Germans and the local forces out of Afghanistan."
Olaf Scholz, Chancellor candidate of the SPD
An as current topic as climate change is the situation in Afghanistan this Sunday: After the military has left the country, the Taliban have conquered one region after the other.On the day of the summer interview, the hand without a fight is pending."Is the evacuation already running to get German and local workers out?" Asks Hassel. Scholz dürfe nicht allzu viele Details verraten, aber: "We will do everything we can to get the Germans and the local forces out of Afghanistan."
What about those local forces who would not have made it to the airfield?"We have created the opportunity to come to Germany," replies Scholz and adds that most of the 2500 identified people who expect the government have already entered.Tina Hassel has the accusation of Armin Laschet to speak.This accused the Foreign Ministry of Zehinitik in relation to the evacuation by Heiko Maas (SPD).Scholz defends the ministry of his comrade: "Here the government acts together."
Scholz comments on Afghanistan deportations
Didn't the federal government want to admit that the situation was tilting?"They wanted to deport to Afghanistan at the beginning of the month," added Hassel.From Scholz's point of view, two questions arise here: Firstly, whether people who endanger security in Germany and who are not stopped to offer should leave the country.The opinion of the SPD: Yes.At the same time, the Chancellor's candidate also applies that it must be possible for the respective country.He explains:
"We have to consider our criteria and the Interior Minister has decided that it is no longer possible.But we have to note that even if we offer many people protection, someone who endangers people here cannot stay."
Hassel speaks of a humanitarian drama: a number of people are on the road to leave Afghanistan."Would Germany be able to create contingents very quickly with other countries to record them?" She asks.Scholz speaks to ensure that people where they first look for protection and refuge, get integration options and perspectives."Many flee to Pakistan, Iran, Iraq or Turkey.There you will look for a way to develop a perspective - and we have to support you, "he says.The fact that this did not happen last time did not lead to many people moving on because they had the impression that their situation was hopeless.
Afghanistan is only one of many crises with which the Federal Republic currently has to cope - and that expires during the legislative period of the incumbent government.At the end of the interview, Hassel therefore asks how long the hanging game will take to the formation of the government and who will lead the country in the meantime."How long that takes you cannot say beforehand, the clearer the vote for the SPD is, the easier," says Scholz.Until then, the current government will remain in office, which should therefore continue to be negotiated together on important questions despite the election campaign.
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